The following are excerpt from a debate on a new movie about so called “Naked Yoga” (a contradiction in terms):
Ajit Krishna Dasa: Some modern yogis teach only the asanas of yoga, as if by physical exercises one could reach the Absolute Truth Some have slandered yoga by transmogrifying it into a sex cult. Books such as Naked Yoga are not uncommon, and yoga often commingles with erotic massage among groups interested in peddling illicit sex as a form of “divine love.” Ironically, the first principles of yoga—as described in the Yoga-sutra and Bhagavad-gita—are celibacy and sense control. This film is obviously trying to drag yoga down to the animal level! Have you ever seen a pig doing yoga? Well, these so called yogis are going to become something like pigs in their next life. Or actually most likely trees. The funny thing is that the yoga tradition itself condems this sort of animalistic activity and proclaims that people who like being seen naked will take birth as trees, because trees are standing naked for all to se for so many years. Such films are simply destroying the credibility of actual yoga and are nothing but bogus and cheating.
Debater 1: , this is too much….!!! Relax Hara Krishna people. Smile to the world and live in the NOW. The world is changing, you can’t live with closed eyes and only follow the old scripts. Yes you can, and it’s not that I don’t respect them, but there are so much more in the world to see and ad knowledge…. To let go of boundries is one of the biggest thing there is to learn, and also to accept other people point of view. I maybe don’t live from all this rouls and limited way of see things. This is the modern world, my friends. Not anything else!! And that is my point of view of it.I don’t go deeper into it then that. Not valueif it is right or wrong. Just see it as it is! I like the free world, where everything is oneness and nothing is to judge. You create your world out of your point of views, and for me it’s okay. I just don’t share the same as you! Love ♥
Ajit Krishna Dasa: Which now are we supposed to live in – the material now or the spiritual now? Animals are good at living in the now, but it is only the material now. Animals can’t discuss spiritual philosophy and make a program to spread spirituality in the world. So humans who want to drag yoga down to the animal level will end up as animals and live in the material, bodily now. The fact that they are doing it show they are already living in the material now and don’t know anything about the spiritual now. To say something is outdated because it’s old is a logical fallacy. There’s a lot of old, universal wisdom and also a lot of modern nonsense. The real yoga system was handed down from God Himself, but has become degraded – and this is the buttom. These so called yogis are animals in human form. The Vedas call them dvipa-pashu meaning two-legged animals. Letting go of boundries? What is next? Should we accept pedophile and zoophile films with yoga asanas? Should we not see child molesters as criminals, but just see them “as they are”? Would you also claim there’s nothing to be judged about them? I hope not! The so called modern world is a world of moral degeneration and hypocrisy. In addition: “Oneness” is the no. 1 enemy of love.
Debater 2: I see nothing wrong in celebrating the beauty of the female body like this video does. Its not sexual, not degrading in any way and btw.. If they didnt respect their bodies, theyd hardly be as fit as they are.. So if that makes you come back as a pig in youre next life, what does people only focusing on spirituality come back as, purple candles? Id take the pig any day then, atleast they live life.
Ajit Krishna Dasa: You have my blessings to become a pig in your next life. Pigs love to eat stool and have sex with their sisters, mothers and daughters. If that the kind of freedom you like, then go ahead and do it. In the meantime I will focus on raising my consciousness to the spiritual level, so that I can altogether leaving the physical plane and enter the pure, transcendendal plane. Neither the female nor the male body is beautiful. The so called beauty is less than one milimeter deep. If you cut just one milimeter away from all the skin of the most beautiful woman, you will be disgusted. All bodies are skin bags filled with nails, hair, mucus, stool, urine, blood, sweat, snot, earwax, bones, marrow, flesh, fat, stomach acid, semen/menstruation fluids etc. There is nothing beautiful in that. I guess you wouldn’t jump into a swimming pool filled with these substances? But you love it when it is packed up nicely in a sweaty skin bag with hairs and nails? This is called ILLUSION. The beauty of the body is nothing but a supreme illusion. Think about it. Such a disgusting thing and people love it so much that during sex they will lick the most dirty places on the body – the body’s sewer system where stool and urine comes out. This is REALl illusion and you just reavealed that you are one of the victims of that illusion. The yoga tradition consistently warns us that the body is a temporary stool factory. That it is a cancer tumor around the pure soul. Why worshop a cancer tumor? That is disgusting! I advise you to get out of your illusion, but if not, then you are free to become a pig in your next life. Then you can run around naked and worship the body of your sister, mother and daughter.
Debater 1: It’s amazing how much you need to promote your believe here, and to tell us what is right for you. I don’t need to tell you what I do or not do to live in this world with my spiriallity. Why make other people wrong for what they are because they don’t chose to live as you do. We are all differient from each other, and I dodn’t put this vidio on my fb so it can be used for justifying the believe or the life we chose to have in this life. Nobody try to make you wrong or make themself right here. It’s just in the matter of openness to accept other people and that they also are a light in this world, no matter what. Bacause I live differently then you, it doen’s mean that I don’t know the vedas or Surtras, and know about karma and illusion, it just mean that I chose to live in another way then you. I have lived limited (for me it felt limited) in the yoga tradition, and have also felt offended when other poeple had another opinion or believe about it. But we are free to have what opinion about things as we have, all of us!! I feel that you two is so much in your believe, that there aren’t space for other then you and that in your world. And that is really sad, bacause when I met you Sanatani-devi Dasi, I know you were so differient. Then I felt no judgements from you at all, but now you live so much form det “book” or the scrips, that there aren’t room for anything else. I respect you and your believe, don’t make it wrong, I just don’t understand why it’s so important for you to justify it here on fb, and so much.
Debater 2: Id rather be a happy, caring, courious and fun pig, living and loving life (and other pigs – family included) anyday, oh infinitly wise master of the spirit Ajit.. If all your knowledge leads you to behave and talk as you do here.. Agressive, mislead and (I have to say) quite stupid..
Ajit Krishna Dasa: Your problem is that you don’t like the truth. You can never be happy, caring, curious, funny, loving as a stool eating pig. Your problem is that you can’t accept truth. You want to live in illusion and violate the principles of yoga. In the yoga tradition the use of sharp words to cut the hard knot of material attachment is accepted as the highest form of love. So I’m actually saying this as your best friend. I’m a better friend to you, then any other person trying to make enjoy this temporary material body made of stool and urine. Our duty is to inform you about the truth of yoga. Yoga is a divine path given by God to bring people back to Him. Therefore, if we see people make yoga into something material and animalistic it is our duty to defend yoga and present it in its pure form. You may like it or not like it.
Debater 1: Keep on going…. Can you please close this subject now!! Thank you!
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Seems like debater 1 and 2 ran out of arguments and therefore ran out of the debate!
